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 obsessedwithbrewcrew |
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Posts: 1748 June 30, 2009 12:32 PM The Weatherman
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Thank goodness Counsell isn't on the list!!
On a more serious note, the list is clearly fake. One other version I saw had Jeromy Burnitz on it twice. |
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TheRealMattKain |
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Posts: 100 June 30, 2009 12:36 PM |
Shenanigans. This list has been up since yesterday and no major news outlet has reported a word on it. This seems not unlike the George Clooney death
rumors. Fake.
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revengeofSAGET |
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Posts: 1095 June 30, 2009 12:45 PM |
Prior / Wood / Zambrano / Clement. That's like the Cubs entire staff from several years back.
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Posts: 2862 June 30, 2009 12:47 PM |
my first though when i saw it was players like Sexson made it look questionable. Seems like its filled with just a bunch of mashers. I figured it would create
a good discussion so i posted it.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been
baseball. This field, this game, is a part of our past,
Ray. It reminds us of all that once was good, and that could be again" --Terence Mann (Field of Dreams)
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chuckiehacks |
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Posts: 481 June 30, 2009 1:26 PM |
Deadspin has a pretty good article on this being fake.
It doesn't seem fair that the Chorizo has to race in a sombrero. --Jeff Tweedy |
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pebadger |
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Posts: 1317 June 30, 2009 2:45 PM |
I can virtually gurantee that when the actual list finally makes its way out that at least one of the people on the list will be a victim of a false positive,
and will be crucified with the rest. I'm not defending specific players, or the players as a group, but anyone who knows anything about how these tests
work, especially under the protocols set forth for the 'screening process' which generated this list, will see that grave injustices for some are a
virtual certainty. And that is why the union fought so hard on the issue of testing for so long.
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Crazyk1294 |
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Posts: 1091 June 30, 2009 4:22 PM |
I can tell this list is fake by 3.5 words:
Valerio de los Santos.
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"I'm not sure what my problem is, but I'll bet it's hard to pronounce..." "I like to conclude with an ellipsis..." |
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NYChez |
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Posts: 500 June 30, 2009 4:44 PM |
The most obvious reason it's fake is the author knew enough about baseball to put down a list of believable names - yet didn't think the list would
create buzz?
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mothershipconnection |
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Posts: 8856 June 30, 2009 5:07 PM Brewerfan.net Moderator |
Way too many big name players for me to think that it's a legitimate list. It's like someone went through every team's 2003 roster and picked
out three or four top players from every team, and then threw in a few lesser known players to make it seem credible.
I agree, this is hooey. The real list would undoubtedly be more like the Mitchell Report and include way more scrap heapers, has-beens, and journeymen trying to get ahead, rather than the top performers.
Dear Santa,
All I want for Christmas is a reasonable free agent signing that isn't a relic of the steroid era or signed for too many years out of knee-jerk stupidity. |
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Fatter than Joey |
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Posts: 7381 July 1, 2009 10:38 AM Pure Yostian Hatred |
Why isn't David Segui on it? or Jason Grimsley?
I think this is Bullyost. |
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DHonks |
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Posts: 11338 July 1, 2009 1:18 PM |
We all assumed Jenkins was on roids for years. No mention of Vina?
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JoeDirt |
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Posts: 27 July 1, 2009 2:04 PM |
Although I have my strong doubts that this list is real I think that Rich Aurilia is a name that jumped out at me. I always in the back of my mind suspected
him because of his MONSTER 2001 when he hit 37 bombs. His previous career high was 22. He was also a teammate of Barry Bonds and when the rumors came out
about him I immidiately made the link. He also had a sharp decline in power over the next 4 years with totals of 15, 13, 6 and 14. I have my suspicions about
Albert Pujols, hate to say it.
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steve267268 |
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Posts: 2021 July 1, 2009 2:29 PM |
Not a single surprising name on the list, if you ask me.
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Backupcatchers |
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Posts: 1721 July 1, 2009 3:26 PM |
Or did they just not care? I don't think they had any penalty for a positive test back then, did they?
Maybe they didn't care but if they wanted to continue to use them it would have been stupid to test positive on that specific test. That would kick in the mandatory testing program which would make it that much harder to get away with the rest of their career. Maybe they only used steroids because they felt they had to keep up with those who were using them. In that case they may have wanted to make sure they did test postive. I remember a number of the White Sox players initially planned on skipping the test which would be deemed positive so testing would be implemented but were talked out of it by the union. If that was the case why would some of them on that list have been caught afterward? (please ignore I'm arguing with myself) If the list is real why wouldn't players who have been confirmed as users be on it? No Grimsley, Segui or Vina makes it look pretty fake. I have my suspicions about Albert Pujols, hate to say it. Personally I think that is why he isn't creating the excitement around baseball he should with the seaosn he's having. It used to be fun to watch something special like that. Now it just creates suspicion. |
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jhart05 |
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Posts: 1358 July 1, 2009 4:01 PM |
On the other hand, would some of these guys be "big names" without the 'roids?
Just asking.
Go Panthers!!!
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twobrewers |
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Posts: 2411 July 1, 2009 5:11 PM |
One other version I saw had Jeromy Burnitz on it twice.Maybe he did twice as many steriods? |
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crewcrazy |
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Posts: 4018 July 1, 2009 6:42 PM Brewerfan.net Moderator
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twobrewers wrote:Maybe the Brewers would've had a winning season in the late 90's if he wasn't so selfish and shared with everyone else.
"The way everyone is literally expecting a beaning, it sounds like Braun pointed directly into the Astros' dugout, yelled, 'That one's for
your Mom, Pence!' and then proceeded to throw his head back and laugh and pat his belly as he rounded the bases." -- SeriesFinale, 9/5/07
"I pounded the zone, but I pounded the middle of it." -- Manny Parra after a rough start in LA |
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Postseason2006 |
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Posts: 778 July 1, 2009 6:53 PM |
I'm starting to think Jody Gerut was on the list too.
Chicago's
Useless By September |
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jackalope02ca |
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Posts: 607 July 1, 2009 7:02 PM |
I'm pretty sure Lou Pinella was on the list too. Haven't you noticed how he's mellowed out now. He hasn't bumped an umpire lately and he even
took Milton Bradley down the runway the other day so we couldn't see them argue on tv. In the old days he would have thrown the Gatorade cooler at him
right on then bench.
Until an official list comes out it's all speculation and nothing else. Although I'm sure at least some of the players on the list did test positive. The one player that stuck out to me was Bengie Molina. He doesn't need steroids but he could really use some "speed" |
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Backupcatchers |
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Posts: 1722 July 2, 2009 10:46 AM |
I'm pretty sure Lou Pinella was on the list too. Haven't you noticed how he's mellowed out now.
take one look at his melon and it's obvious. Nobody's head is that big without help. |
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