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Hate those Rodents |
Designated Yost Thread... Latest: No accountability and lack of urgency (reply #978) |
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http://www.rotoworld.com (search Carlos Villineueva).
Memo to Ned Yost: your owner and GM spent a bunch of money to bring in four new relievers in the offseason and there's currently five guys in the
Milwaukee pen capable of going multiple innings. So why do the non-Ben Sheets starting pitchers keep getting chances to blow games? Villanueva was fine
through six today, so maybe he deserved a chance to start the seventh. However, it shouldn't have taken five straight hits -- the second a homer -- to
finally get him replaced. Yost has done nice things with the lineup this year, and it's encouraging that he's realized Derrick Turnbow shouldn't
be the No. 2 man in the pen. Still, he's failing miserably at knowing when to make that first pitching change.
Last Edited By: support October 26, 2008 12:09 AM.
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RyDogg66 |
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Blasphemy! Nothing is Yost's fault. Our pitchers need to learn how to get batters out. How's that.
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"In play, run-scoring play." Who gets the day off today Ned? |
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trwi7 |
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This is what Rotoworld had about Bush's start last night.
Dave Bush was charged with five runs -- four earned -- in 5 2/3 innings Wednesday in a loss to the Indians.http://rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=MLB&line=233646 |
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Ennder |
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I mentioned this in another thread but I don't have a problem with today's game at all. A little bloop single, a HR, a solid hit and then he faced Bako
and Harang who he should be able to get out even if he is 'tired'.
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PeaveyFury |
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your owner and GM spent a bunch of money to bring in four new relievers in the offseason and there's currently five guys in the Milwaukee pen capable
of going multiple innings.
That would be the same bullpen that gave up 9 runs in just over three innings last night, right? Mark Tauscher, MVP of the World. |
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strawbossisevil |
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I think he got burned last year with the pen getting over worked. He might be over compensating some for that in the present. However, you don't know when
a pitcher is done, until he's already had an amount of damage done on him.
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trwi7 |
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PeaveyFury wrote: Yeah and two of the pitchers who had the most damage are the two lowest on the totem pole, right? |
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JJHardy7 |
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I have a memo to Rotoworld:
If a tree falls and no one is there, does it make a sound? and...does it really matter what Yost did or didn't do with CV if the Brewers only score one run in a game? I have a feeling this is going to be a long filled Yost hating season, but Yost doesn't swing at first pitches and have a horrible plate approach. Yost has been talking about the exact opposite and having good at bats. Yost is going to get blamed for quite a bit this year. I'm surprised nobody has blamed Prince's giving up meat and lack of production so far on Yost. |
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SoCal Brew Crew Fan |
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I can't believe Yost got Prince to give up meat.
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hauser42 |
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I dont see this ,as a Yost concern and more a concern that some of the starters can not go deep into games start after start. Parra and Villy have no real track record in the majors and Bush seems to be a 5 inning pitccher. These things could once again produce an over worked program.
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Just because a player brings a finshed piece of wood to the plates doesn't make him a hitter! |
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zzzmanwitz |
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153 games
COREY HART WEARS AWESOME AT NIGHT - TheMCG |
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danzig6767 |
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I generally get quite nervous when Bush is still in for the 6th and 7th innings of close games, i wish Ned would be extremely quick tohave a relief pitcher up
and ready to come in.
Today though, Villanueva was cruising. He gives up a bloop hit to Dunn and then hangs a curve, that was the ball game and i can't blame Ned for that. |
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dadofandrew |
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Bush averaged more innings a start than Suppan did last year. You can't just take him out after 5 every game, that will lead to a tired bullpen. Basically,
we're just talking about second guessers. If Bush goes 5 and gives up a run, he should have been taken out. Ditto after 6. Ditto after 7. After 8.
To be honest, the Crew just got outpitched the last 2 days. That's going to happen quite a few more times, I would guess about 50-60 minimum. |
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mothershipconnection |
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I can't believe Yost got Prince to give up meat.
I still can't believe Yost held Capuano's arm down on a table and bashed his elbow with a meat tenderizer.
If I weren't so mad about Dave Bush right now I'd think up a clever line about him to use as a signature.
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Team Canada |
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My beef is that Yost let CV give up 5 straight hits. Even if a starter is cruising, if it's not Sheets, you pretty much should have someone at least
stretching in the 7th just in case. 5 hits without an out is inexcusable. Regardless of how he was doing before, clearly the wheels have fallen off at that
point.
this post presented by Kohls
It's ok, Cub fans aren't actually real people. |
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brewcrew00 |
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Team Canada wrote: You have to consider how long it takes to get someone ready in the pen too. As soon as Encarnacion hit his bomb, there was a mad scramble in the pen.
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brewcrew00 wrote: Agreed. And I also agree with Ennder from earlier.
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ELCABALLO45 |
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Memo to Rotoworld: Stop trying with your cute smart alec remarks, and stick with fantasy advice.
And for the love of God, will someone feed Prince a cheeseburger already... |
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tomwopat |
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Maybe Yost could have used some of those, you know, intangibles to determine he was out of gas? It cuts both ways. And really, even in the light of pitch
count, WHIP, and ball/strike ratio, Yost should have had some traditional baseball knowledge and instinct to know Villy wasn't going to go the distance,
much less "keep the team in the game" vs Harang.
losing is a disease...
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Hall4President |
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I can't believe Ned Yost stabbed Wise with a salad tongs.
I think that being a Brewers fan is like smoking. Ya know it's not good for you, you know you are going to get hurt, ya know you're going to regret
starting, but you just keep on doing it.--brewerjamie15
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endaround |
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Bush came to face Dunn when he was already at 90 pitches with Shouse already warm.
Villaneuva entered the 7th at 78 pitches. |
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