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sbrylski06 wrote:

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At worst, its six runs and 10 bullpen innings over the first two months. And Villanueva's likely not a sub 4 ERA pitcher, at least not right now, based on peripherals. The difference between them would most likely be negligable.

Yea, but how much longer are we going to hear that about Bush? The bottom line is that he doesn't pitch up to his peripherals. The fact is that he's simply not as good as his peripherals would suggest.

And I think there's a big difference between Villanueva and Bush. Villanueva's more reliable and more consistent at this point whereas Bush could go out and give you 8 Innings of 2 hit ball, or he could go out and give up 6 in the first inning.

I doubly don't understand Melvin's comments based on what he said before about all the new aquisitions being able to go two innings at a time. it would seem the bullpen would need less of the converted starter/long inning kind of guys.

Just saying that they CAN go 2 innings doesn't mean that they will everytime out, it means that he's got a bullpen that's versatile which is always a good thing. And it's always better if a guy is able to go 2 innings, such as Torres, Riske, and Mota can.

I would think there's enough info on Villy to prove he should be a starter. This really disappoints me. I thought Melvin was smarter than that. I guess we all have blind spots.

I think maybe we should wait and see what actually happens before we try to interpret what he said and call into question his intelligence.

All the Escobar talk reminds me of Melvin touting Rottino. I hope it's not that kind of "kiss of death". I'm really rooting for this kid. I hope he "fills out," gains strength, and becomes an all around offensive player to go with that slick glove.

I don't recall Melvin talking up Rottino as much as you do apparently. I do remember him praising him for his work ethic, and his versatility, but I guess I don't see a very clear correlation between the two. Rottino was never really anymore than a utility type player who was never going to be a big part of our future. That's why they moved him to catcher so that it'd increase his value. He's a player who's going to hopefully fill a niche for us. Escobar is a player who could be a future start for us.

Anyway, I think it was more Yost who was a fan of Rottino. I just remember him really talking him up in ST the last couple years about what a hard worker he is, and how when they tell him to do something, he does it without any questions asked, and is willing to do whatever it takes to help the team and get better as a player.

But like I said, he was never in the same league as Escobar. He was more of a "little engine that could" and Escobar is the blue chipper.