The winning percentage is .615. That's 99 wins. Considering we've played more on the road than at home. I'm not concerned. Frustrated at the
approach when behind in ball games, yes. Other than the game I attended at Shea last Sunday, we dont play well from behind. Enter Dave Bush into the equation
and the likelihood of falling behind early grows. The kids have said they are confident that they are going to win most ballgames, so I dont think they are
pressing to win. I think they press when they fall behind early and have a tendency to have poor approaches at the plate.
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Designated Yost Thread... Latest: No accountability and lack of urgency (reply #978)
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Well, it looks like Braun and Fielder are pressing a bit right now.
Keep in mind we are only two and a half weeks into the season. It's not exactly time to panic yet...we still are above .500, after all. We know this team has talent...they'll come around and pull it together soon enough, I believe. |
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Posts: 1444 April 16, 2008 11:48 AM |
Wow, I love how every blame always manages (no pun intended) to get back to Yost. Why is everyone freaking out??? We're 8-5, not 5-8, or even worse 3-10.
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Posts: 1075 April 16, 2008 11:59 AM |
Apparently some fans were told we'd win 150 games this year.
I'm just glad it's 70 degrees outside and there's a baseball game on tonight. The offense will come around, Mike Cameron will help a lot, Yo is coming back soon. I said it in the IGT yesterday and I'll say it again, I just can't get upset about most things in April. It's just way too early. I couldn't imagine the amount of "worried?" threads there would be if this were Tigerfan.net. |
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Posts: 954 April 16, 2008 12:05 PM |
It's. Been. 13. Games.
Man, this is gonna be a long season if this keeps up... Ben Sheets - defining " Anyone who tells you they are a "die-hard Cub fan" simply hasn't tried often enough! |
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Posts: 3649 April 16, 2008 12:05 PM |
I have nothing real specific to blame on anyone right now. But the idea that some fans expect to win 150 games is a tad over-dramatic. When /if the Brewers
win 89 games versus 92, and miss out on the playoffs again by less than three games, YES, one or two games blown by stupid decisions do/will matter.
Saturday 4/19: Sheets is feeling all right, status unknown, may have to miss a start, not sure.
Monday 4/21: Announcement that Sheets will miss his next start, strictly precautionary at this point. Thursday 4/24: Nothing new at this point, Sheets still doesn't feel right, he'll start to get testy with the media. Sunday 4/27: Sheets put on the 15 day DL retroactive to 4/19. Tuesday 5/5: Sheets eligible to come off DL, but won't, still not feeling "right." And then ??????????? |
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Posts: 855 April 16, 2008 12:07 PM |
Does anyone think there is a manager out there who wouldn't be on them to take a better approach at the plate? Name one manager who would tell Braun
it's ok to swing at every pitch regardless of location. Which guy leads his team by telling his players they can flourish in this game when a pitcher knows
they don't have to throw strikes to get them out. If they feel this pressure now I'd assume they felt it a lot more trying to make it to the big
leagues with that approach. If the minor league managers weren't on them as hard , if not harder, than Yost about their poor approach the problem isn't
Yost. It's the minor league managers who let them get away with it for so long. Professional baseball players at all levels are going to have pressure. If
they can't deal with it it isn't the manager who needs to go. It's the weak minded players.
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tosabrewfan |
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Posts: 8 April 16, 2008 12:11 PM |
I think a lot of the "is it time to panic?" sentiment come from the fact that we were all waiting so long for this season to arrive. That being
said, I hope somebody talked to Braun on his off days and pointed out that he didn't need to hit 20 home runs in his first ten games. I think that this
team will come around.
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Posts: 1077 April 16, 2008 12:12 PM |
NDOG44 wrote: And there's plenty of time for stupid decisions as it's April 16th. Yes, every game is important, but it's foolish for us to get so upset 13 games into a 162 game season. Especially when the Brewers have won EIGHT of them. And yeah, the 150 win comment was over-dramatic, just like worrying about our offense 13 games in is a tad over-dramatic. |
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Robideaux |
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Posts: 142 April 16, 2008 12:12 PM |
I'm solidly on the "Ned Yost should have been fired last year" bandwagon, but I think we should probably wait to hang him in effigy until he
actually does something blatantly dumb. Given his track record, it is bound to happen sooner or later. Blaming him for nebulous things like pressing/stifling a
team playing .600 ball just undermines the legitimate gripes that are sure to come. You know the whole "Cry Wolf" thing.
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jlau20 |
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Posts: 1285 April 16, 2008 12:15 PM |
I haven't been checking the site much so far this season because I've been really busy at school, but man, I really didn't think I'd come on
and see worrying about our season going down the tubes. We're 8-5 and as someone pointed out, that equates to 99 wins. I highly doubt anyone can seriously
believe we'll win 99 as it is, so I can't see any reason to panic right now. Is our approach ugly, even extremely ugly, at times? Sure. I'm not
willing to say that there is pressure getting to the team though, I don't think they seem to be feeling any more pressure than they did the last two years
just due to the fact that I think they know they can win the division.
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Posts: 743 April 16, 2008 12:16 PM |
Robideaux wrote:Name one manager in the history of baseball who doesn't make "blatantly dumb" moves. Too much blame is placed on Ned, not just on this board, but by Brewer fans everywhere. I think every manager in baseball has a "track record" of making said dumb moves. |
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Backupcatchers |
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Posts: 857 April 16, 2008 12:24 PM |
Name one manager in the history of baseball who doesn't make "blatantly dumb" moves. Too much blame is placed on Ned, not just on this board,
but by Brewer fans everywhere. I think every manager in baseball has a "track record" of making said dumb moves.
After the Mets series this should have been obvious other managers make dumb moves as well. Pinnella made a few in the opening series as well. |
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Posts: 143 April 16, 2008 12:25 PM |
brewcrew00 wrote: Every manager makes moves that look "blatantly dumb" in hindsight. I don't expect a manager to have the ability to look into a crystal ball
to divine the eventual outcome of every move. Where Ned drives me crazy is when the move he makes in inexcusable prior to the outcome (see Mench/Jenkins Cubs
game). The manager's job is to make the move that gives the team the best opportunity to win. Ned hasn't always done that; sure some other managers
fail at times in this regard, but most good one's understand platoon splits.
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Posts: 2233 April 16, 2008 12:29 PM |
I'm not a Yost fan, but I'm wondering if people's memories of 1982 aren't coloring their views. Get rid of Buck Rogers and let Harvey Kuenn
take over. Everything magically gets better and we go to the world series. I think people expect the same thing to happen by dumping Yost and letting X take
over.
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Posts: 858 April 16, 2008 12:30 PM |
Most people would realize putting in a pitcher who has suffered through so many health issues that he had to go form starting to closing, at home in a tie
game, in cold rainy weather, on a slippery mound is a bad idea as well. That didn't prevent Lou from doing it though did it?
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Posts: 744 April 16, 2008 12:39 PM |
I'm sure he understand platoon splits, and makes his in game decisions based off of the ultimate goal of winning. All managers fail in multiple situations
during the course of one season. To think Milwaukee has it any worse than any other team out there is ridiculous.
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Posts: 144 April 16, 2008 12:42 PM |
Ok, I'll bite. If he understands platoon splits why did he leave Mench in to hit against a righty?
Backupcatcher, That's not an objective right/wrong situation. That's simply a gut feeling. There is no objective right/wrong in that situation. There has to be an alternative that is clearly better (in my mind) to rightly criticize a manager. Otherwise it's simply second-guessing.
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Posts: 745 April 16, 2008 12:49 PM |
I'm not saying I know the exact reasons he does things. Mench, got me on that one. Ned has a tendency to ride hot hands and career numbers of a hitter vs.
a pitcher or the other way around. Could have had something to do with the example you gave.
I'm simply saying every manager makes moves like the ones that are complained about here, and Ned is NO worse than anybody managing baseball right now. Matter of fact, I'd take him over most. |
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Posts: 859 April 16, 2008 12:51 PM |
Robideaux wrote: He made a choice that turned out to be wrong. He went on a hunch that Mench was actually hitting well at that point in time, having good ab's and went with it. Much like we were debating not always going with the career numbers in paticular insatnces yesterday in the IG thread. It failed and they lost one game. For heaven's sake it was one game last year and that's still the biggest gripe some people have. Get over it already. It's a new year, he has a new bench coach, he's shown with his bullpen useage that he has learned from his mistakes to some degree so let it go and give up on that stupid play already. Every manager makes them. |
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