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Posts: 697 September 10, 2008 8:15 AM |
How many of those are intentional because first base is open and a righty is on the hill?
Cameron has one IBB this year, and it came in extra innings. He could certainly have been pitched around in the situations you describe. |
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joepepsi |
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Posts: 1969 September 10, 2008 8:36 AM |
NDOG44 wrote:I know he's listed at 6' but that's being generous, isn't it? He looks shorter than almost every player out there. I can't imagine he'd be able to even play at 300 pounds and that short.
"We're the big-big-wowowow-look-how-far-i-can-hit-a-ball-moron-brewers. It's our identity".--
holybannana 7/31//08
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RyDogg66 |
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Posts: 8385 September 10, 2008 8:38 AM Tom Petty Apologist |
AdvantageSchneider wrote: Mo Vaughn? Sid Fernandez? Eating your way out of the league can be hidden. Most fat guys can be productive ages 23-29, it is the 30-33 time where they start declining and it is a quick exit out of the league at that point, only many dont realize it and assume it is age, not fatness that causes that decline. While it may be age, it cant be ignored that some times if a player is thinner and takes good care of his body that he can play longer.
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"In play, run-scoring play." Who gets the day off today Ned? |
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MJLiverock |
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Posts: 224 September 10, 2008 8:43 AM |
kramnoj wrote: I guess I am not following you here. I was talking about some of those walks Fielder getting with a running in scoring position being because first base was open and a righty was on the hill and Hart not providing much protection and no other credible lefty threat in the lineup. Prince has 15 IBB's this year 4th most in the league. No way to tell how many pitch around give him nothing to hit ABs with 1st base open. I don't know where the Cameron IBB comment comes from. |
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joepepsi |
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Posts: 1972 September 10, 2008 9:09 AM |
I miss Russell Branyan.
"We're the big-big-wowowow-look-how-far-i-can-hit-a-ball-moron-brewers. It's our identity".--
holybannana 7/31//08
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logan3825 |
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Posts: 3863 September 10, 2008 11:27 AM |
I would say looking at the huge split in OBP and Ba with RISP would indicate at the very least that teams are pitching around Prince. The low batting average
to me indicates that he is swinging at bad pitches with RISP and might be better off being more selective. Of course given the sample size, it may all just be
luck.
Remember, fan is short for fanatic.
"Did you ever have occasion to do that." - Anderson "Absolutely I did... back in little league." - Schroeder |
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NDOG44 |
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Posts: 3846 September 10, 2008 12:48 PM |
For football fans out there, Denver Broncos DE Elvis Dumervil is 5'11" 260 pounds. Start your comparions there.
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fondybrewfan |
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Posts: 1578 September 10, 2008 1:04 PM |
Dumervil is ripped and fast. Prince just ripped has pants. If Dumervil is 260 (Don't they usually go on the heavy side for football) than Prince is no
smaller than 280. Plus Dumvervil's weight is actually good weight, whereas Prince appears to have a ton of dead weight. I dont care if Prince weighed 400
pounds so long as it helped him in his baseball ability
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JonnyLungs |
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Posts: 359 September 10, 2008 6:03 PM |
I wouldn't say his weight gain has necessarily affected his offensive production. But what about defensively?
I'd be curious what some of the metrics say. My eyes tell me that he's gone from terrible to absolutely brutal at first base. |
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kramnoj |
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Posts: 699 September 10, 2008 6:24 PM |
Fielder this year is 23 in ZR among qualified 1B with a .800 ZR. He was 17th last year with a .813 ZR. 19th with a .804 ZR in 2006. So, yes, he has slipped,
but people who study defense say that you need two years of defensive data to equal one year of offensive data (approximately).
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rluzinski |
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Posts: 15998 September 19, 2008 8:50 AM |
If Fielder's weight is hindering his offensive abilities, he certainly hasn't shown it lately. He's gotten his overall numbers to a pretty
respectible level:
.272/.371/.502/.873, 94 RBI, 32 HR Amazingly, with Braun's recent free fall, they are prett even, offensively. Braun's line: .287/.334/.555/.889, 98 RBI, 35 HR Considering position and defensive ability, Braun has easily had the more valuable year overall but I wouldn't have guessed a month ago that Prince had any chance to catch Braun, offensively. Because of my skepticism that an arbitor would properly weigh Prince's terrible defense, I think Prince will do just fine, salary-wise, next year. |
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Ennder |
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Posts: 5950 September 19, 2008 8:56 AM |
Luckily an arbitor probably won't realize that an OBP heavy .873 OPS is much better than a SLG heavy one.
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TooLiveBrew |
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Posts: 9216 September 19, 2008 10:36 AM BF.net Jedi
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Considering position and defensive ability, Braun has easily had the more valuable year overall but I wouldn't have guessed a month ago that Prince had
any chance to catch Braun, offensively.
I certainly did think Prince would 'catch' Braun once upon a time earlier in the summer, but to be honest the extreme late-ness of his power surge had me resigned that it just might not happen this season. I knew (strongly thought) that Prince had a power surge left in him... just wish it could've come a couple weeks ago 
"Sounded like Darth Vader" -- Bill Schroeder, on Trenni Kusnierek's garbled commentary (that sounded
nothing like Darth Vader) 6/13/08 v. MIN
"Command me nothing. What you know, you know" -- Iago, to Othello |
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ILuvDaBush |
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Posts: 591 September 19, 2008 8:55 PM Chris Berman's Apprentice |
Better late than never.
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holybannana |
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Posts: 156 September 20, 2008 1:58 AM |
Fielder brought it every game and did what he could. The league adjusted on him some and he needs to figure it out.
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GB12 |
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Posts: 124 September 20, 2008 4:40 PM |
Terrence Taylor is 6' 318 pounds and he has a body type that is much closer to Prince than Dumervil does. This is Dumervil with his shirt off 
Now I've never seen Prince topless, but I'd guess he'd look a bit different.
Last Edited By: GB12 September 20, 2008 4:51 PM.
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mikedunham |
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Posts: 2 September 20, 2008 4:50 PM |
i think its time for mat gamel to go buy a first basemans glove. no one in the league is a worse defensive first baseman than fielder, so gamel cant be any
worse.
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olsonnet |
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Posts: 294 September 21, 2008 12:25 PM |
and again today prince continues padding his stats in "garbage time"...
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Ennder |
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Posts: 5976 September 21, 2008 1:12 PM |
olsonnet wrote: I sure hope this is a joke. While I doubt we make the playoffs we are only 2.5 games back and I fail to see how this is garbage time. |
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homer |
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Posts: 7624 September 21, 2008 3:54 PM |
make that 1.5 back.
Chicago Cubs 2008 - Let the choking commence! |
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