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New Power 50, 6/30/09 - up now!
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 And That |
New Power 50, 6/30/09 - up now! |
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Posts: 8006 June 30, 2009 12:13 AM Hipster, CWFHA |
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battlekow |
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Posts: 1393 June 30, 2009 12:52 AM |
Oooh, Arnett over Braddock--intriguing!
How quickly Cody Adams has fallen off the list entirely. That's looking like a wasted second-round pick. |
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 ELCABALLO45 |
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Posts: 2983 June 30, 2009 12:59 AM |
Thanks again!
Awesome to see Arnett this high up already! "It's what he does" - Brian Anderson, after another Ryan Braun game winner |
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And That |
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Posts: 8007 June 30, 2009 1:20 AM Hipster, CWFHA |
Two of the four Power 50 editors (including myself) had Braddock ahead of Arnett. Braddock placed 4th, 6th, 9th and 10th while Arnett placed 4th, 6th, 7th and
8th. Arnett actually tied with Salome for 5th, but the tiebreaker went to Angel. Lucroy to Cain were all very close.
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TheCrew07 |
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Posts: 3206 June 30, 2009 5:09 AM |
The post draft P50 usually has some movement, but wow were there a lot of big movers both ways.
My only nitpick is that Dennis would have been in the 20s, probably in front of Brewer.
"You can discover more about a person in an hour of play than in a year of conversation."
- Plato "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." - Plato |
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southpaw121505 |
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Posts: 586 June 30, 2009 10:52 AM |
Good job as always guys
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LouisEly |
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Posts: 2084 June 30, 2009 11:33 AM |
Hmmm... Arnett ranked about 6 spots too high (for now, until he proves himself), Wooten about 15 spots too low - Chris Smith and Mark DiFelice are proving that
if you throw strikes and have good command you don't have to throw 95mph to be a successful reliever. Wilson and Mercedes belong above Zarraga and Farris.
I'd need to see more than 6 SBs in a game and a 5-5 performance before I'd get that excited about Garfield and Prince. Just my $0.02. Other than that,
looks good.
"The passion is raw... but the hot dogs are cooked!" - ESPN announcer at Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest
"Somebody needed to shove a nice big Milwaukee's finest bratwurst into that dude's mouth. That, or a fist." Bill, a.k.a. "Batman", on Ronnie Woo-Woo's presence at Miller Park. |
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uwisfan |
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Posts: 703 June 30, 2009 12:35 PM |
I'm a "what have you done for me lately" kinda guy, so I'd prefer seeing Prince and Garfield in the top 25 personally.
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jjfanec |
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Posts: 1336 June 30, 2009 12:47 PM |
Garfield is showing his bat is pretty good, even if it is a small sample size on him. The concerns on him where his bat as he is supposed to play really good
defense, so his showing with his bat has helped his prospect status even if in a short time.
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jvrocksaz |
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Posts: 362 June 30, 2009 1:16 PM |
Dare I say Adam Heether?
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And That |
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Posts: 8008 June 30, 2009 1:18 PM Hipster, CWFHA |
There was an Adam Heether mention in the Power 50. He's ineligible due to age. If the age constraint weren't there, he'd be somewhere in the low
20's, I imagine.
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jjfanec |
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Posts: 1338 June 30, 2009 1:18 PM |
jvrocksaz wrote:Heether is 27 years old so he may be too old for the prospect list. I know there is an age cut off |
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jvrocksaz |
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Posts: 363 June 30, 2009 1:22 PM |
All I know is that he is raking at AAA this year... I guess the recent success of McGehee has me curious about what Adam Heether can bring to the big league
club... IMO he is far more interesting then the likes of Dillard, Swindle, Wright... Just wanted to give Adam a plug since he is often overlooked!
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jvrocksaz |
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Posts: 364 June 30, 2009 1:23 PM |
And That wrote: Thanks for the info! The list is great! I wasn't aware of the age cutoff! |
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And That |
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Posts: 8009 June 30, 2009 1:32 PM Hipster, CWFHA |
The 27 year old age cutoff is something we might rethink - I think Heether is a prospect. The cutoff was originally instituted when the farm system stank and I
had to have a good reason to keep older AAAA-type guys off the list.
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battlekow |
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Posts: 1396 June 30, 2009 1:43 PM |
The idea of what constitutes a prospect is an interesting philosophical discussion. I mean, was Mark DiFelice a prospect last year? Is it more important that
he was 31, or that he'd never played in MLB before? I think basically we're looking to expose guys with a chance to contribute significantly to the
Brewers who haven't played in MLB before (that's what makes Todd Coffey different from Mark DiFelice), regardless of age.
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GodspeedYouPackEmperor |
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Posts: 188 June 30, 2009 2:12 PM |
I think the age cutoff is a bit unnecessary. Age compared to level is a factor in assessing prospectdom, generally moving players down the list as the get
older. Excluding outright is a bit of over-redundancy. At the time when the system was barren of any types of prospects, it made total sense, but for where
they're at now I would just let it play itself out.
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YostInfection |
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Posts: 83 June 30, 2009 2:28 PM |
One thing that strikes me about this list/system is how DEEP it is. Good lord, Lintz near the bottom and Adams off completely. True, they have not performed
to date, but 2nd round picks from a year prior not being Top 40 prospects really speaks to the quality of players currently playing in the Brewers system.
Exciting. |
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monty57 |
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Posts: 958 June 30, 2009 2:52 PM |
Great job, guys. My big question is whether Macha will give Gamel 42 ABs before the next Power 50 is compiled, but that's probably for another thread. I'm not one who pays attention to amatuer players, so I have to go on your knowledge of the draftees. I sure hope Arnett lives up to the expectations everyone has for him. Good comments on Cody, Dillard and Green. The Brewers could use one of their AAA guys stepping up and helping the MLB team. I'd really like to see one of these three get hot and push McClung back into the 'pen. One thing that strikes me about this list/system is how DEEP it is. Agreed. A long time ago, Melvin said he wanted to use the Twins' model to build the team. It appears he's succeeded. We have a largely home grown team on the field in Milwaukee with plenty of talent coming up through the system. Plus, the draft picks we're likely to get for Hoffman and Cameron should allow us to have another deep draft next season, helping assure that the next ten years will be more successful for Milwaukee than the previous ten years. I appreciate all of the hard work everyone here does, as it helps me "see the future" as to what the Brewers will look like over the next few years. |
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trwi7 |
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Posts: 9387 June 30, 2009 3:03 PM |
Wily Peralta #3 pitching prospect? A travesty I say!
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BoKnowsBall |
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Posts: 109 June 30, 2009 3:24 PM |
Garfield is also exciting and I think is about right because he is a high school kid starting off in Helena instead of Arizona.
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